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Laura

(I just saw this on the internet! Laura)

The NEWEST Pretrib Calendar !

Hal (serial polygamist) Lindsey and other pretrib-rapture-trafficking and Mayan-Calendar-hugging hucksters deserve the following message: "2012 may be YOUR latest date. It isn't MAYAN!" Actually, if it weren't for the 179-year-old, fringe-British-invented, American-merchandised pretribulation rapture bunco scheme, Hal would still be piloting a tugboat on the Mississippi. roly-poly Thomas Ice (Tim LaHaye's No. 1 strong-arm enforcer) would still be in his tiny folding-chair church which shares its firewall with a Texas saloon, Jack Van Impe would still be a jazz band musician, Tim LaHaye would still be titillating California matrons with his "Christian" sex manual, Grant Jeffrey would still be taking care of figures up in Canada, Chuck Missler would still be in mysterious hush-hush stuff that rocket scientists don't dare talk about, and John Hagee might be making - and eating - world-record pizzas! To read more details about the eschatological British import that leading British scholarship never adopted - the import that's created some American multi-millionaires - Google "Pretrib Rapture Diehards" (note LaHaye's hypocrisy under "1992"), "Hal Lindsey's Many Divorces," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)" and "Thomas Ice (Hired Gun)," "LaHaye's Temperament," "Wily Jeffrey," "Chuck Missler - Copyist," "Open Letter to Todd Strandberg" and "The Rapture Index (Mad Theology)," "X-Raying Margaret," "Humbug Huebner," "Thieves' Marketing," "Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Pretrib Hypocrisy," "The Real Manuel Lacunza," "Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers," "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," "Dolcino? Duh!" and "Scholars Weigh My Research." Most of the above is written by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson who has focused on long-hidden pretrib rapture history for 35+ years. No one else has focused on it for 35 months or even 35 weeks. MacPherson has been a frequent radio talk show guest and he states that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit group and not to any individual. His No. 1 book on all this is "The Rapture Plot" (see Armageddon Books online, etc.). The amazing thing is how long it has taken the mainstream media to finally notice and expose this unbelievably groundless yet extremely lucrative theological hoax!

Brian

I,ve come to the same conclusion, Shane. It seems that often time prophies in the Bible were not understood until they were actually being fullfilled. when the rapture comes, I,ll know it. If Christ comes and reigns, I,ll know it. I will say though, that I strongly disagree with Amillennialism because of the numerous promises God gave Isreal considering physical land and an physical reign. in light of Romans 10 Im not sure I'm convinced that this is only refering to the Jews but I do know that all God's promises that have been fulfilled have been so literally. to Spiritualize his promises, I think, Is a great mistake. I love reading Augustine but he wrote a book called the "City of God" where he clearly went to far spiritualizing everything.

Bill

Readers might enjoy reading "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" on the "Powered by Christ Ministries" site. In fact, it might blow them away! Bill

Jeff Rhoades

Shane, I've been raised under the influence of Southern Baptists my entire life. When I moved to Arkansas (from California) in 1968, I began hearing the "pre-tribulation rapture" teaching. But even as a junior high and high school student, I always had trouble embracing the teaching because of Matt. 24 and Mark 13, where Jesus seems to lay out of the order of events in sequence. Even the Apostle Paul tells us in his letter to Thessalonica that Jesus' return will not occur until first the anti-Christ is revealed. The passages pre-tribbers use are presumed. In other words, they inject pre-trib in the passage without warrant. I for one do NOT believe in a pre-tribulation rapture.

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